Long-Term Visit Pass - Plus (LTVP-PLUS)

http://www.ica.gov.sg/news_details.aspx?nid=12665

Good news for those of us who cannot get PR for our beloved spouse, because the Singapore government has come up with a enhanced long-term visit pass called LTVP-PLUS or LTVP+. I'll sum up the key points in the FAQ provided by ICA so you don't have to go through one big page.

Do let me know if I missed out anything or correction is required by dropping a comment.

GENERAL
  • LTVP+ will be in effect from 01 Apr 2012.
  • LTVP+ holders will enjoy extended duration of residency, public healthcare subsidies and easier access to employment.
  • No separate application required for LTVP+; an application for LTVP will automatically include your spouse for LTVP+, if eligible.
  • LTVP applications submitted from 01 Feb 2012 will automatically be considered for LTVP+.
  • The first approved LTVP+ will grant 3 years residency and subsequent renewal will be 5 years.
  • Current holders of LTVP will be considered for LTVP+ on next renewal. If holders of LTVP wishes to be considered for LTVP+ earlier, may submit new LTVP application, but note that processing and issuance fees apply.
  • Singaporean and LTVP+ holder may only purchase resale flat; unless they have a Singaporean child then they may purchase a new flat direct from HDB.

ELIGIBITY
  • Only spouse of Singapore citizen will be eligible for LTVP+; spouse of PR can only apply for LTVP.
  • Couples with at least a Singaporean child will be eligible, but for those without child and married for at least 3 years will stand a higher chance. ICA will also look at financial capability of sponsor and good conduct of sponsor and applicant.
  • Pregnant spouse may also apply for LTVP+.
  • Foreign widow of Singaporean with Singaporean child will be eligible.
  • ICA will consider valid foreign marriage certificate or proof that the marriage is recognized in the country of marriage.

HEALTHCARE
  • Public hospital subsidy; ward A 0%, B1 10%, B2+ 30%, B2 45%, C 60%, Day Surgery 0%, Specialist Outpatient Clinic 0%, A&E 0%.

EMPLOYMENT
  • Employer need to apply for Letter of Consent (LOC) from Ministry of Manpower (MOM) before LTVP+ holder may commence work.
  • No administrative fee incurred by employer for the application of Letter of Consent.
  • Duration of consent granted depends on the employer and LTVP+ expiry date.
  • Consent is renewable as long as the LTVP+ has at least 3 months validity.
  • LTVP+ holder may only work for one employer and hold only one LOC at any point of time.
  • LTVP+ holder is not allowed to set up business.
  • LTVP+ holder may change job. Employer should cancel the Letter of Consent within seven days after resignation and prospective employer should apply for a new consent from MOM.
  • No limit to how many LTVP+ holders a company can employ and LTVP+ holders will not count towards a company's foreign worker quota.
  • No foreign worker levy imposed for hiring LTVP+ holders.
  • Existing work pass holders may submit LTVP+ application. Upon collection of LTVP+ from ICA, work pass will be cancelled. ICA will issue a temporary approval letter so that work may continue but employer need to apply for Letter of Consent before the temporary approval expire.

PROCESSING TIME
  • LTVP+ application may take 6 weeks.
  • Letter of Consent may take 1 week.

FEES
  • Fees to pay are the same between LTVP and LTVP+; $30 processing fee and $60 issuance fee, additional $30 if visa is required.

Update 07 Sep 2018
ICA revamped their website so the original link is no longer valid, can go to their main page instead: https://www.ica.gov.sg

Comments

Anonymous said…
Just wondering how many successful application so far. If I am married for 8yrs and has a 5yrs old son. But still my husband LTVP+ application was rejected even after we appeal still rejected.
Sorry to hear. I'm wondering the same thing as well. But unfortunately, we simply have no way to determine how the whole approval process works, same thing goes for PR application.

I can only wish you luck in your next application or appeal.
Anonymous said…
Is there any one has Approved for LTVPPlus ??
Some one write above they rejact even marride more then 8 year and has 5 year old son what pass he was holding ? And they give him LTVP or they just rejact the application ? I just got the approval today still don't know it's LTVP or LTVPplus status on web ita LTVP approved and the latter they send to our home also did not mention anything about duration or plus of any on has apreoved for ltvplus please post here did they mention on aproval latter or only u will know when u go to Ica for collation
Thank
Unknown said…
my wife has a LTVP+ 3 years after my son was born in sg, and was allow to work in thai express. Follow by she was very sick and tired of that company and wanted to change to a new thai restaurant with better benefit. End up, the new company tried to apply for the new Letter of Consent was been rejected at all times. Wondering why and what was the main root causes, MOM refuse to reveal, therefor no choice have to go GRC for Meet the people session to seek help, currently still waiting for result. Is been 3weeks, and still no answer from them !
Hi Benny, thanks so much for sharing your situation, would be a good reference for many like us. As usual, it's very difficult to get more information from government agencies, I was also frustrated when ICA rejected my wife's PR application without giving any reason, the thing is, if we don't know what went wrong, how are we supposed to know what to do. I can only wish you the best, take care.
Unknown said…
Hi , I have LTVP . valid until 13th june. My new born baby now 3 months old. I am eligible for LTVP+ . As the ICA , they said renewal time will automatically updated the LTVP+ . But I want to get it faster. went to ICA and they suggested to apply only as a renewal applicant. But i am worry a bit. Anybody can suggest me regarding this matter that what should i do please !? should i apply for renewal as i still have 4 months more validity ?
In my opinion, if you want, you can try to renew now, anyway the processing time for LTVP or LTVP+ is up to 6 weeks, even if you don't renew now, you still have to start applying before May, so from now until May, your just about 2-3 months earlier.

And you can follow ICA advise, no worries, they are the authority, as long as they say ok, means ok.

Good luck and take care!
richelle said…
Hi to answer your thoughts
i am holding LTVP for 2 years plus and now just reapplied again and granted for LTVP+ for 3 years.

When you go through with your application online the LTVP+ don't have a separate application. right? Only the time that you will submit the formalities of your application for LTVP to the ICA you will know if you are eligible for LTVP+
and the officer will let you know if you are eligible to have it.

other queries why the LTVP Rejected.
maybe the financial matters.

Thanks
Unknown said…
Hi ,
I submitted my LTVP renewal application and also applied for PR. But I did a mistake in the PR application. My Mother date of birth in my LTVP application is correct but in PR application i put the wrong date !! so i am confused that what i should do now. should i withdraw my PR application !? i am terribly confused ! anybody can suggest me please ?
Mr Rahman said…
I have received approval letter for LTVP. I think we can only know it is LTVP or LTVP+ after we go ICA to cpmplete formalities. I think it is necessary to justify to the office why i need the LTVP+ . Can anyone advise on this?
Mativo said…
When collect the ltvp, what will they question you?
Hi Mativo, if you can get to collecting LTVP, that means it's already approved, there shouldn't be any questioning, you just book an appointment and go down to ICA building to collect the LTVP.

But if you mean applying for LTVP, there also shouldn't be much questioning, you just submit the required documents and let them assess your application.
Anonymous said…
Hi I got a thai girl pregnant and have already registered for marriage with her in july. However, Im currently still doing my degree in NUS therefore im unemployed.

My dad has agreed to pay all costs for my marriage and the upbringing of my unborn child till I graduate.

However as I did my research on the application for a long term visit pass , I found out that Im required to furnish details on my financial status to determine my capabilities to support my spouse and child.

Can anyone here advice me on a way to apply for a ltvp for my foreign spouse taking into account that im unemployed currently?
Hi,

I know you concerned about the letter of employment, CPF and IRAS part, don't worry, just go ahead and apply and give them whatever you have, for those that you don't have, just tell them that you are still studying and have not yet enter the workforce.

After that, most likely the application will be rejected because you are unemployed, what you do next is appeal, read here,
http://marrythaigirlsingapore.blogspot.sg/2013/01/ica-faq-appeal-for-visit-pass-for-long.html

You already know what to say in your appeal so tell them that in writing i.e. she's pregnant with your child, your dad will assist you financially and so forth.

If that doesn't work, find your MP to help.

By the way, how many weeks is the baby now? And how long more till you finish your degree?
Anonymous said…
Got my ltvp+ recently.. I just married to a SC june this year and is currently pregnant which we declare during my application. They automatically granted me ltvp+.

For renewals..no need to worry as they will automatically issue you ltvp+ specially if u have an SC son.
kucing kurap said…
Ask minister to help..i married malaysian for nearly 2 years and have 10 month baby..after seing minister 3 or 4 time and ask them to help now my LTVP+ have approved...try again and never give up k
kucing kurap said…
Ask minister to help..i married malaysian for nearly 2 years and have 10 month baby..after seing minister 3 or 4 time and ask them to help now my LTVP+ have approved...try again and never give up k
kucing kurap said…
Ask minister to help..i married malaysian for nearly 2 years and have 10 month baby..after seing minister 3 or 4 time and ask them to help now my LTVP+ have approved...try again and never give up k
Depressed Husband said…
Nah. Thats not the case. I am a SC, got married in 2010 with a caucasian lady from America. When we submitted the application, she was pregnant. As this is the first pregnancy we had ever encountered, we were really anxious to the point of being frantic. After our wedding, we collected the pass. It was not an LTVP+. Just a 6 months LTVP. As my wife had gotten worried, being pregnant, juggling her degree studies and taking care of the house, she had a miscarriage.

After that, our 1st and 2nd renewsl were still 6 months LTVP. But our 3rd renewal was slightly better, 12 months. Still a regular LTVP. I had been employed all along, but only bring home 2k a month.

Lately, I switched my job to a much better paying employer. We had also successfully concieved a beautiful son in year 2012.

So when her pass expired in feb this . We consulted ICA. They did not advise specifically on what we should. Instead, upon learning that my financial situation had improved tremendously, our application for renewal was automatically being considered as a new application. I was asked to submit the new employment letter, cpf statement and such. Our next step is to go down formalities on the appointed date that I had booked last week. Though we still do not know exactly if this will be the new LTVP+.

Seriously, even up to this point, I still cannot comprehend fully, on why reviewing of such applications isnt entirely transparent. By denying our foreign spouse a very early chance of doing some part time work, and a degree of assurance, it can turn the whole house upside down. The entire liability thus falls onto the shoulders of the Singapore Citizen, no matter male or female. By becoming the sole breadwinner of the family due to a cause as such, I really find it cruel.

Some people debated that 1 of the main reason, was because of some black sheeps going into sham marriages. Yes, I do believe there is a small percentage in this area of deception, but by meting out hardships of every Singapore Citizen with a foreign spouse, with baby in tow, to single out illegal marriages, seems to be really too much.

For instance, when you know that your application was rejected most likely due to your inability to earn more in salary, it becomes an irony when your spouse CANNOT do anything to help. Except looking after the house? Not every person can be as lucky as I did, to get a better job paying 30% more than my previous. But they did not do anything bad or immoral to recieve that type of stringent treatment.

I really do wish that matters related to such issues can be addressed promptly so we can better focus on building our family without uncertainty.

Yes, it may take more time for ICA officers to explain and reason with failed applications, but that amount of time, is sufficient to change the fate of our entire family. A short 5 minutes counselling session targetted at the main reasons for the failed application can direct that particular family on the right path. Instead of making them wait clueless. Life is short. Every 6 months, or even 1 year of waiting for such issues equals to precious time being wasted a way. There is a certain degree of damage that can take root in the midst of such periods, and some of these are powerful enough to destroy the already not so strong foundation of our matrimony.
Unknown said…
for LTVP who want to find work, what are the documents required by the prospective employers to apply for the LOC ?

my wife's prospective employer is asking for photocopy of my IC too ??
Anonymous said…
Hello.. I am recently got married to SC
Anonymous said…
Hello.. I am recently got married to SC 1st week March this year.. Then applied for LTVP march 21.. Im currentl holding spass and pregnant which we declare on our application.. Today i checked from ica the status tru singpass but until now no result.. The officer whom we collected our documents says it will not take long to get approved she says less than 6weeks.. Im wondring is it normal that it will take up so long to get approved?
Anonymous said…
.... And what if its get rejected? Is there any chance that i can still give birth here in sg so my husband will be around on the day of our kid delivery.. Im having spass but the doctor advised me to stop me from working bcz of my sensitive condition.. Pls advise thaaanks..
Hi Unknown,

I think better check with MOM whether it's necessary, not a good idea to give out your NRIC, nowadays they can use it to take loan or whatnot, very risky.
Hi,

Welcome to Singapore.

The LTVP can take a while to approve, but definitely at 6 weeks or lesser.

I think most likely will be approved since you are holding spass and pregnant, you'll probably get the LTVP+ too so don't worry too much, take care of yourself.

And as long as you are feeling ok, no harm working.

So all you need to do now is relax wait ;)
Anonymous said…
Thaaankyou admin.. Today is the 5th week still "pending" on ica.. Well i guess i need to wait for another week.. Will keep posted as well incase someone outhere having the same situation..
Anonymous said…
I am a singaporean PR and i am intending to apply for LTVP for my partner ( common law partner) from France. My question is how long is the pass valid each time? It's not clearly stated in MOM website, and i read up there that it could be 6 months or 12 months. Does this pass entitle him to be able to look for a job here and if he still needs a EP or S or whatever other pass if he could find a job? Or Letter of Consent like LTVP+ holders if they are able to find a job, employers could just sign a letter of consent.

Appreciate all your replies and thoughts.

Thanks
Hi,

For my wife, her LTVP was always valid for one year, she is now holding a LTVP+ (3 years). As to the differing duration, you may want to check with ICA directly.

As a LTVP holder, his prospective employer will need to submit work pass application for him, source here:

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/passes-visas/Pages/employment-of-long-term-visit-pass-holders.aspx
Anonymous said…
Hello.. We rcv the IPA for LTVP via Post.. It wAs written that we need to pay at the counter for the issuance.. Do we need to do it the same day of formalities? Or i can go anytime at ICA and pay the fee earlier than our sched of formalities?
Hi,

You can pay early, and you have to pay within 30 days of the IPA.
Anonymous said…
Hello admin. The ipa letter was dated 28 April.. My formality is 29May.. Is there any conflict if im going to pay on the day it self? Or better pay early on their counter? And also the formality is it the same day that im going to get my ltvp card? So what will going to happen to my spass? Thhhnx pls let me know if you any idea with regards of this.
Hi,

I think you have to make payment within 30 days of the letter. And you should be able to make payment online via this link:
https://ltpass.ica.gov.sg/eltsvp/main.do
Sim said…
Hi there, have read through your blog, very informative.
I just got married to a foreigner, infact 3 days ago, we did our ROM in Singapore.
I apply for her LTVP through online. But there's no indication of when to submit the supporting documents. (Just fill in and pay $30 online, that's it)
Anyone can share on how it is done?
Hi Sim,

Don't worry, it's correct. What will happen next is you wait up to 6 weeks for them to approve, once approved, they will send you in-principal approval via email and inform you to make payment of $60. After that, for first time application, she needs to go for medical checkup (TB and HIV test), there will be instructions and form provided, then you also have to book an appointment to go ICA to complete formalities, that is the time when you need to submit the documents.

And congratulations!
Unknown said…
Hi marrythaigirl!

I hv been reading thru ur blog and it is really informative in regards to marrying a foreign wive. It is really goood to share these information especially to many who are out there that are lost like me. Ica have been restrictive to giving information in regards to marriage between SC and foreign brides
Hi Le,

Glad you find it useful and thanks for dropping by!
Unknown said…
Thx for the swift reply i would like to enquire something, i just got married to my vietnamese wife on 8th april 2014. Applied for ltvp on 12th april 2014. Till date is 5th week exactly. We were asked to submit documents on the 4th week. May i know my chances from your experience. I hold a monthly gross of $2500(take home $2000 after cpf deduction.) but employment date commence on oct 2013. I am only 24 this yr, my wife 26. She have nv hold any passes in singapore nor work before nor have any entry problem, this is her first visit to singapore. Question is how are my chances be? Do they reject right away if they deem me not eligible or is this handing of documents a standard procedure even if they wants to reject me? Additional info: im a singaporean. Before this job i only had 2k in cpf. This job confirmed me after a 3 month probation and paid cpf steadily only since feb.. Thx!
Hi Le,

From my experience, I only need to submit the documents on the completion of formalities appointment, but don't let it worry you, your income is good enough, if they want to reject I don't think they will ask you for documents. Just wait for good news ;)
Unknown said…
Appreciate your information. Thank u. Will update again once theres news to let others have another case study.
sim said…
Thank you very much for the reply. Awaiting for the approval now.
Anonymous said…
My wife is a singaporean we got married on the october of 2013.. And since then i have been home and i tried finding for job bút was not able to find any and i hold a ltvp.... Atlast someone was ready to employ mě bút they said they cannot apply any pass for mě. Howevrer, they were ready to ask approval from mom by sending a letter of consent bút they rejected my application as i do not have ltvp +. So my wife took mě to ica hoping she can explain the officers that why we need ltvp +.... Bút they said i want qualify for ltvp + as we have been married only for seven months... I feel so strucked. Can you please advice what can i do.
Hi,

Yep, to get LTVP+ you need to be married for at least 3 years or have a baby.

I thought should be easier for LTVP holder who is spouse of Singaporean to find a job since since there is no foreign worker levy, anyway you can try looking for retail or f&b jobs, I see openings all the time, and in the meantime you can try to find the job that you are interested in, at least you will have income flowing in.

I also suffered joblessness a few times, in those days I worked at NTUC as a packer and sold handphone at a retail shop and while working, I kept sending resumes, it takes time and luck, keep trying, but most important thing is just grab any job that you can find, at least you have money coming in.

You can also check out this job portal that is run by our Workforce Development Agency, https://pes.wda.gov.sg/jbs/Logon/index.aspx

Best of luck!
Anonymous said…
Thanks I shall try... I was just about to give up. Thanks for your advice...
Anonymous said…
And one last thing are you sure there is no foreigner worker levy? In that case I can request my employer to apply a pass for me as they won't pay any levy... However, I jus want to double check with you, thanks
Hi,

Yes I'm sure, it's stated on MOM website, see this link:
http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/passes-visas/Pages/employment-of-long-term-visit-pass-holders.aspx
Anonymous said…
Thank you.... Am going to talk to my employer and ask them whether they can get a work pass as there is no levý .. I will let you know what happens.
Unknown said…
Hi ! Im back! Just got my ipa this morning. Went printing all the form 14 n blabla bla forms... Now last step is the chest x ray and blood test... Finally!!!
Anna said…
Hi all, i want to share my experience too. Im a foreign wife from SC. Got married in the mid of 2013. I got LTVP for 6 months starting from December 2013-June 2014. The reason why it was not for 1 year, most probably because my husband just resigned from the previous company and started working in the new one for about 2-3 months by the time my 1st appointment with ICA. ICA want to know that we have stable income salary for at least 6 months. As a LTVP holder i found it very difficult to get a job despite having degree from my original country. It is quite though for me n my husband to live the life as he is the only breadwinner with salary around 2.6 K, and I am a homemaker with no income and we have no choice but to live with his family here in Singapore.

And now im pregnant and just did renewal today for visit pass. ICA gave me LTVP Plus for 3 years, God Bless. Im very thankful for any benefit as LTVP Plus holder, at least i can give birth this year in subsidy costs, and hopefully to get a job in easier way once i deliver my soon to be singaporean baby.

Anyway,ICA officer told me not too often go outside Singapore, because it determines also the chance to get LTVP or LTVP Plus. But if we already have PR it would be up to us to go anywhere as often as we want. My husband already started his job and contribution to CPF since around 2011, i think this is also one factor that i got LTVP Plus now, since ICA will ask about CPF contribution for around 3 years.
Anonymous said…
Hello..I have a pending ltvp online application filed on May 1, 2014. My husband and I were asked to submit required documents last May 30. The ICA officer told us that we wait for 1 wk for results but until now no results yet. The officer also told us that if its still pending after 1 wk then we go back to ICA 3 days before my pass expires. What does that mean? Anyone had similar situation? Thanx
Hi Anna,

Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm sure it will benefit a lot of people. I'm glad things have been working fine for your family, I wish you the best!

Hi to the comment after Anna,

I think next week you should get some response. As for the 3 days expire thing, don't worry, it just mean that a visitor is not allowed to overstay, you have to make sure your social visit pass remains valid, just a precaution, they tell that to almost everyone.
Anonymous said…
Hi..i just resigned my old job and work with my brother with no contribution cpf..i have been married for 4 years n had a child..what should i do to apply for my wife ltvp plus in this situation?
Hi,

Try submit your payslip if any and bank statements showing regular income, I think it might help. Main thing is you need to show ICA that you have a stable income to provide for your family.
Anonymous said…
thanx for ur reply..patiently waiting for positive response this week..best regards
SK said…
Hi,
I'm a SC married to my foreign wife last yr, we've applied and was granted 1yr LTVP (Sept13- Sept14).

Browse thru the ICA page and it states that the processing period for LTVP application/renewal needa abt 6weeks. So should I start my application for renewal abt now?
Is there any documentation (marriage cert, employment letter, cpf contribution details, medical examination, etc etc) which I needs to prepare for the renewal of the LTVP?
Hi,

You can apply now but it's a bit wasted, I suggest you apply 7 weeks before expiry date so you have 1 week buffer to be safe.

The documentation is the same as those that you submitted the first time, can check it out here under documents required:
http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=175&secid=171
SK said…
Thanks for the info.

So we've still have to re-submit all the document as per new application as well as the medical/blood test and x-ray report?
Hi SK,

Yes you will need to submit the documents again, as for the medical checkup, they will let you know if it is required once the application is approved but most likely no need because one checkup is valid for 2 years so for first renewal usually no need to checkup again.
SK said…
Hi,
Thanks again for the info..

Cheers.
Sim said…
Update, my wife got her in-principle approval for LTVP. We booked the earliest date to go ICA for formalities. But her short term visa is expiring soon, so gonna make another trip to ICA for extension.
For those who need help/questions on medical examination for Pass - We went to Raffles medical hospital, it was fast, less than 30 mins all done and report can collect after 2 days. Payment - $48.
SK said…
Hi Sim,
Congrats.
Do make sure you have the following when you go for the completion of formalities at ICA.

(i)Completed Application Form(s), Form V234 and Appendix (VP);

(ii) Applicant’s Marriage Certificate;

(iii) If applicant is pregnant, a letter from a registered doctor stating applicant’s expected date of delivery (EDD) and a copy of duly completed Form V107 is required;

(iv) Children’s Birth Certificates, if any;
(v) Sponsor’s Identity Card (NRIC);

(vi) Sponsor and Applicant’s highest Educational Certificate;
(translated with certified true copy)

(vii) Sponsor’s Letter of Employment (dated within one month of application
submission) stating date of commencement, designation and salary per
month [for self-employed: sponsor’s valid Business Registration Certificate
from the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA) and
Company’s Profit & Loss Statement for the last 12 months

(viii) Sponsor’s monthly CPF contribution history for the last
12 months

(x) Sponsor’s and Applicant’s Divorce Certificate(s) (if any):

(xi) Applicant's valid Travel Document/Passport;
(The original & photocopies of the above documents are required.)

and also most importantly, For the Long-Term Visit Pass to be issued, an issuance fee of S$60 will be applicable. The payment is to be made within 14 days from the date
of In-Principal of Approval. Failure to do so will result
in an auto-withdrawal of the application.

Cheers.
Sim said…
Hi all, my wife collected her LTVP card today. Valid for 1 year. Sharing what I been through. Total took around 2 months for this application. The last part is appointment to ICA for completing of formalities (complete all the required forms, provide our marriage cert, her passport, her medical report, my employment letter and my IC)
Maybe ICA changed some documents part? Cos I was not asked for CPF statements, educational cert. Instead just sign a declaration form for CPF.
From the appointment time to provide all the documents to collect her LTVP card today, took 1 1/2 hours, consider quite fast (I was expecting longer waiting time)
So happy, now can bring wifey go jb trips and overseas.

All the best for those applying soon. Cheers!
Anonymous said…
Hi Am a foreigner married to Singapore PR on Feb, 2014. I am in LTVP now searching job but not getting any in my IT field. Now I got a job that not related to IT also employer ready to take me in work permit. I have booked appointment for PR on coming September. Certain ppl saying like if I work in permit it will affect me from getting PR. Also giving me explanations like it is very tough to gain E pass or S pass in future if I get into permit. I am from India. Pls clarify me.
If you are already married to SPR, then it's okay, only work permit holders need to seek MOM approval to marry a Singapore citizen or Permanent Resident.

For work passes, your employer will need to apply for you, it really depends on their quota and whether MOM will approve.

Hope it clarifies.
Anonymous said…
If first we get into work in work permit, is it difficult to get into some job through s pass or e pass in future?
It all depends on whether your future employer is willing to get an s or e pass for you, doesn't matter if you are a work permit holder or not.
Anonymous said…
Thanks !! Really this s a very informative and useful site which has answers for many qns
Anonymous said…
Can my foreign wife have ltvp and work permit at the same time. We got our approval letter but her company wants her to stay and work for them
If you are already married, then it's okay, she can hold both at the same time.
Anonymous said…
Ok because I heard somewhere you are supposed to hold only 1 pass. Ltvp or work permit at any one time
Foreign spouse of Singapore citizen and SPR is a bit special:

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/passes-visas/Pages/employment-of-long-term-visit-pass-holders.aspx

They may let you hold both, or ICA will cancel the LTVP while she hold on to the work permit, either way she gets to stay here and should not make an impact on your family.
breakfree said…
Hi there, really glad to come across this blogpost as I was looking around for info.
I am a Singapore Citizen (f), planning for a future with a foreign spouse (m).
My bf has >15 years of sales/service experience but I foresee will have difficulties getting a job in SG through online application, when he is overseas now himself (still foreigner status, need S pass to be applied by company etc).

Just wanted to know if anyone else has been there and done that....
So say if we ROM, we have to apply LTVP for him and he will then be allowed LTVP status right? Or would there be difficulties even getting LTVP?
And with my readings so far, LTVP will have employment benefits, i.e. be issued passes without increasing foreign worker quota, correct?

He'll be looking for retail sales type of roles, wonder how difficult it is to obtain such positions these days?

1 more thing... Can LTVP be self-employed, i.e. own business be it online or physical shop?

I know it is better if he can get the job directly and independently before ROM but I am just taking stock of other options to keep in my list for KIVs. Hope someone can shed some light on this, either through their own experience or knowledge.
FYI, I have stable mid-high income, if that helps in any applications....

Thank you!
Hi breakfree,

Thanks for visiting.

Yes, the employer will need to apply the pass for him, provided they are willing to hire him but it shouldn't be that difficult, many foreigners also apply online before coming to SG, just try a few times first, it's better than coming here without a job and then it will be more difficult as he will have to worry about living expenses without even getting a job.

Since you will be the sponsor, it will depend on you to have a stable employment in order to apply for the LTVP successfully. And yes, foreign spouse of Singaporean under LTVP is not subjected to the foreign worker quota not foreign worker levy, there is also no need to be from approved source of country.

From what I observed, retail positions are in abundance, Singapore is always in need of retail personnel.

The sponsor for LTVP can be a salaried employee like me who works for a company, also can be a self-employed business owner. From ICA website, as self-employed, you will need to submit your company's registration certificate and 12 months P&L.

If you have stable income, then applying for LTVP should not be too much of a problem.

Best of luck!
WD said…
hi,
i got married in June and applied for LTVP for my wife.
we received the in principle approval today and have made an appointment for completion of formalities in September.
i did not submit her photograph when i did the online application, so will my wife be issued the LTVP card on the appointment date?

thanks
SK said…
Congrats WD,
Yes, she will be issued the LTVP on the appointment date for completion of formality. Do make sure that you have all the required documentations as well as medical checks results available and also make payment of the of Issuance online within 30 days from the date of In-Principal Approval (IPA).
WD said…
thanks SK for your reply.
while waiting for the LTVP processing, my wife has gone back to China.
yesterday, i applied for a Visa online for her to come back, giving the reason that her LTVP application has been approved.
but the Visa application is still pending as of now.
how long is the processing time for a Visa?
will they reject the Visa application?
SK said…
WD,

Usually the outcome of your visa application will be available on the next working day (or 1-3 days) after you have submitted the application online through SAVE successfully. If you have furnished your e-mail address, we will notify you through e-mail as soon as the outcome is known. Or you may wanna call ICA hotline @ 6391 6100 and clarify with the ICA officer. Make sure your wife have the printed copy of the In-Principle Approval of her LTVP and the eVISA when she arrive here.

Regards.
Eryn said…
hi,

came across this blog and is very informative. thanks and good job!

I got one question tho.
I'm Malaysian and getting married to Singaporean in less than 1 month. I heard of the LTVP and LTVP+. now, I was wondering, do I need to live in Singapore in order to apply the LTVP? or can I apply it and come back to Malaysia while waiting for the next step? the reason being because I got a stable job back in Malaysia though and it's quite difficult to get a job in Singapore.

thank you!
Eryn
SK said…
Hi Eryn,
not sure if I've understand your situation & question correctly.

Firstly, LTVP & LTVP+ is to provide foreign spouses of SCs who qualify, greater certainty of stay by allowing the holder a longer period of residency. LTVP+ holders will also enjoy healthcare and employment benefits.

Applicants need not be living here while waiting for the In-Principle Approval(IPA) after submission of the LTVP application. However, upon granted IPA, applicants & sponsor needa book for appointment at ICA for completion of formality.

Is your intend to get the LTVP/LTVP+ and continue living & working in Malaysia?

p.s: As an LTVP holder, your employer would need to apply for the relevant work pass, e.g. an Employment Pass, S pass or a Work Permit if you intend to work in Singapore. And for a LTVP+ holder, your prospective employer will have to apply for a Letter of Consent (LOC) with the Ministry of Manpower (MOM). You can start work only when your LOC application is approved by MOM.

Hope I've answered ur query, as I'm not sure if i understood it correctly.

Regards
Eryn said…
hello!

thanks for the information.
at this point of time I intended to get LTVP. I don't think so I'm eligible for LTVP+

in regards to whether i would want to continue and working in Malaysia, well i guess it depends on luck and chances of me getting a job in SG tho. It's getting tougher for foreigners to get a job in SG nowadays

but what is the consequences if i continue living and working in Malaysia after LTVP got approved?

thanks ya!
SK said…
Hi Eryn,
as I've mentioned in my previous reply, the intend for LTVP/LTVP+ is to provide foreign spouses of SCs who qualify, greater certainty of stay by allowing the holder a longer period of residency in Singapore (>3mths) as compared to normal social visits (30days). yes, you may still apply and be granted LTVP (usually valid 6mths-1yr for first time applicant), but in my opinion, there'll a risk of not getting the renewal of subsequent renewal application approved, if you have notice that within the applicant form (V-234) there are questions pertaining to "address in Sg, whether you are residing with the sponsor at the address, period staying with sponsor at address", thus by applying & not staying in SG, my sense is that they will deem that you actually don't require/need the LTVP, hence not granting renewal.

Regards.
Eryn said…
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Eryn said…
Hi SK

you got the point.. thanks for sharing the information.

WD said…
Thanks SK, we really appreciate your answers.
We received the Visa.
Besides the LTVP approval letter and the e-Visa, does my wife need to have a return air-ticket when she arrives?
And what will be the length of stay given to her at the immigration? Will they give her enough time to go to ICA to complete the formalities?
This is because she will be arriving around 3 weeks before the appointment date.

Thanks again for your time.
SK said…
I don't think a return tix is required, when the immigration officer ask for one, juz provide the In principal approval letter for the LTVP and the eVisa will do.

Usually for social visit, the duration allowed gor stay is 30days..
Should be sufficient for you to finish the completion of formality at ICA
Silva said…
Hi All,

I am a singaporean. I was recently married to an indian national. She has masters degree while i have Bachelor's degree from NUS. I am earning 3800. Recently, i applied for LTVP on 24 July. It is going be 5th week. yet, i haven't receive any request to submit any documents. My wife was here last year for 2 months on training visa to NTU for research internship. My question is, does her previous visit on internship affect our application? Thanks in advance.
SK said…
Hi Silva,
from what I know of, the application for LTVP usually takes 4-6 weeks to process.
Upon submission and payment for the processing fee, you will receive an email stating
that the application for Visit Pass (long term) has been successfully submitted, together with the applicant's name, travel doc no, and ref number and you may make enquiry of status via the e-VP portal at the ICA website.
Is your marriage done locally or Oversea? Her internship at local university should not affect your application.

Regards.
Anonymous said…
for Completion of Formalities in ICA,
as in for employment letter must be in original copy or can i submit in the softcopy printout letter with my boss signature?
aneez said…
Does having a work permit increase my chances of receiving long term visit pass plus
For the employment letter, just bring whatever you have from your employer.

Hi Aneez,

The approval of LTVP+ mainly depends on the sponsor i.e. your Singaporean spouse so I don't think you having a work permit makes any difference.
aneez said…
Thanks for your reply...
aneez said…
Is there a seperate application for ltvp + as i already have a work pass or it is just the same ltvp application.
Hi Aneez,

It's the same application, if you are eligible for LTVP+, they will give it to you otherwise they will give you the normal LTVP.
Silva said…
Hi Guys,

Thanks for the informative forum. My wife's long term pass has been approved-in- principal. My wife was not pregnant prior to the submission of the application.Now, she has been approved.Does my wife still qualify for the LTVP+ as we didn't indicate the pregnancy status on the application. Thanks In advance
Hi Silva,

Call ICA directly and ask if they are willing to grant the LTVP+ considering your wife is now pregnant, give it a shot and see how it goes or else you will have to submit a new application or just wait till the current one is expired then you apply for a new one, by then they should give the LTVP+.

Hope it clarifies!
Anonymous said…
Hi,

Thank you for setting up this website to help affected Singaporean.

I am a Singaporean. My wife is a foreigner on work permit. She got pregnant recently and we just got married (with approval from MoM earlier).

I am trying to apply LTVP+ for her now. May I know is it advisable to declare that she is pregnant in our application? Understood that work permit holder is not allow to get pregnant while on WP. I am not sure what to do. Will she be deported?

Wondering which law was that that allow people to get marry but not allow them to have childrens.
Hi,

If you are already married, then just declare that she is pregnant, she should be able to get LTVP+.

I don't think MOM will approve your application to get married when obviously they know most people will have children.

If you are still worried, just call MOM directly, I'm sure they will say it's ok.
Ben said…
I have been following your blog for many mths, it's great. My Thai wife just got her LTVP "approved in principle" after a wait for more than 6 weeks. I will like to check from the experiences from you:
1) How do I know if my wife got a 6mths or 1yr LTVP? ICA required medical checkup from my wife.
2) How long to receive the LTVP card after the formalities?
Hi Ben,

Thanks for supporting!

Wow, first time I heard someone have to wait more than 6 weeks, anyway you will know whether it's 6 months or 1 year when you go for the formalities appointment, and for first timer, medical checkup is required.

She will get the card on the day of completion of formalities.
Unknown said…
Hi..
I really need help.
Does anybody know whats the formalities or court letter to get for my wife.. children..
The ica officer told me to go supreme court and declare the status of my stepson with his biological father.. when submitting for ltvp application.
WD said…
Hi,
My wife received her one year LTVP this week. I have the following questions:

1. When should we renew her pass next year? In July?
2. Does she need to fill up the disembarkation card whenever she enters Singapore?
3. I know it's too early to ask now: when will she be eligible to apply for a PR?

Thank you for your time.
Hi alex,

I think you just follow ICA instructions, it's a bit more complicated since he is your stepson, wish you the best.

Hi WD,

Normally I will submit about 2 months before expiry for my wife, they will take up to 6 weeks to process, you can also submit later, it's entirely up to you.

My wife told me while she was on LTVP, she never had to fill up the white card, the counter officers also never check, just need to show the LTVP.

She can apply anytime now, can try your luck, maybe she can get it.
Xiaopawar said…
Hi,

I am SC and my husband is an Indian. We got married recently in month of august and because he works in Malaysian on very low salary scale job (compare to Singapore needs) we decided to apply LTVP soon after marriage, but for now it has been nearly 5 weeks and there is still a suspense over the reply from ICA on the process. Though, ICA have increase my hubby SCV from one to 3 months, I have some concerned about the background of my hubby's profile. He studied his Adv. Diploma from Singaporean pvt. institute and then he successfully acquired a job as in E-pass category, but soon he resigned from that job because of some lags in contract with company. Later he applied for another job in Singapore soon after it, but it was not successful and he moved Malaysia looking after a job. Currently we are waiting for some positive outcome but nervous at same time. Could you help us to find out where the things might not work for us, or it is just our hyper reaction.
SK said…
Hi Xiaopawar,
The processing time for LTVP application is usually 4-6weeks, sometimes slightly longer than 6weeks. Don't worry they reply you soon.

Regards.

SK
Unknown said…
Hi,

I am a Singapore SPR I just got married last July 2014 and we submit LTVP for my wife 3 days after we got married. till now around 8wks already and we just keep on seeing this message "



Your Visit Pass (short term) which is issued on 14/07/2014 and valid till 14/08/2014 has been extended on the same condition to 01/09/2014 under Regulation 12(6) of Immigration Regulations.

Your Application for Visit Pass (long term) is receiving attention.

She got a FIN no already but still receiving attention. She while her LTVP is still on process she got a job offer already as a Nurse but she is still waiting for her Singapore Nursing board on October 29. before she can work. Just wondering will she be able to get her approval asap what will her pass be use LTVP or apply for work permit. later we will drop by to ICA again to have extension again. Just worried cause it takes so long as it says 6 wks processing time only.

Thanks
Sincerely
Raymund Bryan
SK said…
Hi Raymund,
it seems like you will have some "trouble" over at ICA,as your wife short term visit pass is overdued (expired on 01/09/14).
Quickly go to ICA and get it extended. (Likely will have a fine tagged along with it).

Upon In-principal Approval" of LTVP, it'll take another 4-5 weeks before the completion of formality session appointment.

I'm not too sure abt concurently holding of both LTVP & work permit. You may wanna check with the ICA officers for better insights.

Good Luck!!

Regards,
SK
Unknown said…
Thanks SK for the reply actually we always make sure that we extend the social vist b4 it expires but the system is not updated it still says the previous message.

Oh i see so it takes 4 to 5 wks once we received the ipa.

its already 8 wks coming 9 wks since we submit the application do u think there will still have chance to be approved? Thanks a lot
SK said…
Hi Raymund,
unfortunately ICA doesn't disclose their criteria of approval/disapproval for applications. However, not to worry as long as the status is still "receiving attention" it means there's still good chance of approval.

Do note that usually the earliest available time slot for completion of formality appointment is like another one month away from the date of approval, so if your wife short term extension is done on a monthly basis you'll probably needa be prepare for at least 2 more trips to the ICA.

Hope you receive good news from ICA soon.

Regards.
SK
Jeff said…
Hi
I am a sc and my wife is a malaysian and she just got her LTVP+
today, as she was pregnant for 4weeks, which the doctor has written down in EDD letter.
so the officer did not ask if she is eligible for plus, the officer took sometime to check on the required documents, then the officer staple all the documents and i saw she write down a note on the Que ticket " recommended for plus" then the officer ask us wait for a while the officer need to get the pass senior authorities to get approved. so the officer taken the documents to the room, then the officer came out
so we waited at the side while she carried on call up for the next number, we waited for about 25min to 30min that range of time, then the officer call us back to the counter. the officer sir, we have officially saying your LTVP+ is approved. so the officer ask my wife for her right and left thumbprint. then ask her to wait for half to an hour for her to collect her LTVP+ card. really is within an hour she can collect her card.

my question is to ask if my wife has the LTVP+ and she give birth in Singapore will she be getting any hospital subsidy for giving birth here? and all those normal routine pregnancy checkup??

Regards
Jeff
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm sure it will help a lot of people out there.

As for pregnancy costs, you can check out Marriage and Parenthood Package: http://www.moh.gov.sg/content/moh_web/home/costs_and_financing/schemes_subsidies/Marriage_and_Parenthood_Schemes.html

Basically you can use your medisave to pay for the bills, your baby is also eligible for baby bonus so that is indirectly a subsidy.

As for pre-delivery costs such as ultrascan, specialist visits and etc, you can only claim up to $450 after delivery of your child, that means you have to pay upfront first.
Anonymous said…
Hi there, one question...supposely i have received and paid the issuance fee for the in-principal approval on 28 Sept'14 and have made the appointment for completion of formalities on 28 Nov'14 for my spouse(1st time application)...upon receiving the LTVP on that day ...let's say it is a one year LTVP..the effective date of the card is from 28th Nov'14 or otherwise?
Hi,

Yep, the issue date is the day you collect i.e. 28 Nov 2014, and expiry date is 28 Nov 2015.
Anonymous said…
oh ok, Thanks again !
Anonymous said…
Hi, My wife 1st time got 6mth LVTP. 2nd time got 1 year LTVP. That time i only earn $2400 basic pay and my kid was a minor citizen as she was from Vietnam convert to singaporean. Now our 2nd kid just give birth as a singapore citizen. Now my basic pay increase $2800. Do you think my wife the 3rd renewal will be a LVTP plus?
Yep, I think they should give your wife the LTVP+, you should also help her apply for PR. Best of luck!
Anonymous said…
Yes i did apply once last year but was rejected. Recently 2 oct i apply agian. Hopefully will get.
SK said…
For Sharing:
From January 2015, Singaporean & their would-be foreign spouses will be able to start the process of applying for spouse's Long Term Visit Pass (LTVP) before marriage.

Another change includes: Employers who wish to hire someone who is a foreign spouse staying here on a LTVP to apply for a letter of consent (LOC). Upon issuance, the foreign spouse will no longer be counted against the foreign worker qouta or required a foreign worker levy.

Details:
http://app.msf.gov.sg/Press-Room/New-measures-to-help-prospective-Singaporean-Foreigner-couples-better-plan-for-their-future
Eryn said…
thanks for sharing!

btw, just want to ask, I'm Malaysian married to Singaporean. I just got my working visa approved. Now, can I apply LTVP?
SK said…
Hi Eryn,
Congrats to your Marriage.
Yes, you may now apply for LTVP. And now would be probably the best time to start the application, as the processing time would be 4-6 weeks and upon In-principle Approval (IPA) it will take approximately one more month to the appointment date for completion of formality. Which means early/mid Jan 15. That will also means your LTVP will be just in time when all the new proposed changes have taken effect.

Regards,
SK.
Unknown said…
Thanks Sk
But the problem is, my husband just quit his job and did not get any job offer yet. I'm afraid that would be a problem ..

What do you think ?
SK said…
Hi Eryn,
Not too sure how long your work visa is valid.
But if it's a short term work visa, the advise would be you proceed and apply now.

However, if your work visa is valid for longer period, you may wish to wait till your husband has gotta a new job, then submit the application.

Regards
SK
Unknown said…
Dear Sk

Thank you and appreciate your advise


Eryn
Anonymous said…
Dear Sk,my LTVP approved already my question is should i go down to ica to do for my extension visa is xpired already october 31 2014 and my formalities date is Nov 28...Thanks!!!
SK said…
Yes, you need to go down to ICA to do extension for the short term visa. Else it's considered overstayed.
Anonymous said…
Thank u SK,What should i bring,should i bring the proved letter that my LTVP is approved already,becoz my worries is my husband is not here he is in overseas and coming back sg Nov 25 ,also my worries is xpired already my visa Oct.31 can u give me some advice should i go down ICA 2morrow to do my extension short term visa :-( i am worried....
SK said…
Hi,
I suggest you quickly call ICA and ask about your situation and way ahead, coz your husband is not around till 25Nov and your visa has already expired. I don't think you can do extension without your sponsor present.

By the way, have you got all the required documents for the completion of formality of LTVP?
remember to go do the medical check at least one week earlier coz you won't get the medical report immediately.


Regards,
SK
Anonymous said…
Thank u SK,Yes i have everything ,i am worried and u r right maybe they dont give me extention bcoz my husband is not here ,all documments i have everything already i try to call ICA always busy the line :-(!!!
SK said…
It's better to call them (keep trying) as they are the best party to advise u now.

Regards.
Vicky said…
Hi all Admin,
Please give me some advice,my husband is in prison serving for 5weeks sentence he will be out Dec.13 2014,please give me some advice my LTVP is approved already Oct.31 the formalities is Dec 9 2014,now how can we do my husband still in prison that date and one more thing my visa expired already Nov.5 2014 do you think if i go to ICA and ask for short term visa extention so i can wait my husband out from prison should ICA give me a chance i just out to wait my husband out from prison so what i ask even short term visa just want to wait my husband to out from prison and after that i go back to my country...Thanks a lot all admin!!!
Regards....
Anonymous said…
Thank u SK ,i appreciate much your help/advice ,i keep try and try to call ICA i want to go down,but bet scared and worried :-(
SK said…
Hi Vicky,
Sorry to hear that. First the date of the e-appointment can be change as u have up to 2 months to complete formality. Steps as state in the link
https://eappointment.ica.gov.sg/ibook/jsp/base/faqVslt.jsp

As for expired visa issue, suggest to call up ICA @ 6391 6100 to clarify. (after selecting "for visitors service" press "0" to go straight to speak with the operator.)
SK said…
Anonymous,
probably you can share with the rest of us what recommended to you for the expired visa issue.
Thanks.
SK said…
Hi Vicky/Anonymous,
if you have difficult calling ICA, probably you may wanna try emailing to them your issue by email to

ICA_Visit_Pass@ica.gov.sg
Anonymous said…
Thank Sk,hi guys do you know anyone who experience ,same what i experience right now my visa is xpired already October 31 2014 my LTVP approved already formalities is Nov 28 2014 ,i am bet scared to go down ICA and ask f they can give me extention short term visa ,my husband is not here he will be back Nov 25 2014 ,are they going to fine me for 10 days overstay even my LTVP is approved already pls guys help me if u know anyone same like my problem,thank you so much!!!
SK said…
Hi Vicky/Anonymous,
any update?

I tried asking around and finding out more abt overstaying in Singapore.
Overstaying is an immigration offence under the Immigration Act.

So quickly seek your Embassy for assistance, and quickly react to it the longer it drag, the worst it will get.

Overstaying is a crime
Vicky said…
Morning SK,i try to call ICA and they suggest me to leave to country but i want to wait my husband Dec 13 is his released in prison :-( ICA told me that they cannot give me extention because my sponsor is in prison:-( my embassy i dont know if who should i call i dont know anyone .....
Vicky said…
I browse about overstaying blog some of them said that if my reason is reasonable why i overstay than they can give me chance but of course i pay fine and they dont knowhow much fine for 1month overstay....Because SK i just want to wait my husband released in prison Dec 13 keep crossing my finger that once my husband released they understand my situation ICA i cannot do anything SK :-( thanks for your advice have a nice weekend God Bless!!!
Unknown said…
Hi All please advise.
i am Singaporean with foreign husband
he had LTVP on June for 6 month and he found good company on Sep
they apply for him work permit
until Oct then they ask him to renew the LTVP so we applied we will get on 25 Nov
please advise why MOM for 3 month not give him the work permit
and the company tired for waiting for 3 months
he has diploma but his cert still in his county and the company apply for him as no diploma because he does not the original
but i asked my friend he is foreigner he tolled me only one week to get work permit :(
i am working for 1800 per month.
any advise
thank you
SK said…
Hi Tareq,
For first-time business employers who have not applied for Work Permit (WP) or S Pass before, they are required to declare their business activity before they can submit S Pass or Work Permit applications.

Work Permit applications for Foreign Workers can be made online using Work Permit Online (WP Online), the Work Permit Application Form, or through an Employment Agency. The processing time for online applications is 1 working day, i.e. by the next working day. For manual applications, it will take 7 working days.

I think you may try to call MOM or get your husband's employer who filed the application to call MOM to clarify the status of application.
Telephone Number: Tel: 6438 5122

Regards,
SK
Unknown said…
Hi SK,
thank you for your reply
I am the Husband Tareq :)
i applied for 2 company both of them took around one month.
i called the MOM. The MOM said cannot inform me anything only can inform the company.
i called the company said you have to renew because the Officer of MOM requested
Really i am confused from the both partys
i have to wait and follow them
i will get my new LTVP on 25th Nov
may i ask the new LTVP for 6 month again or 1 years and the required for medical check up again or no need
Thank you
SK said…
Hi Tareq,
yes, understand your frustration.

I'm pretty confused about holding LTVP & work permit as well.

Anyway, since your LTVP is awaiting renewal on 25th Nov, probably you may want to wait a little longer for the new scheme to start on Jan 2015:

From January 2015, Singaporean & their would-be foreign spouses will be able to start the process of applying for spouse's Long Term Visit Pass (LTVP) before marriage.

Another change includes: Employers who wish to hire someone who is a foreign spouse staying here on a LTVP to apply for a letter of consent (LOC). Upon issuance, the foreign spouse will no longer be counted against the foreign worker qouta or required a foreign worker levy.

Details:
http://app.msf.gov.sg/Press-Room/New-measures-to-help-prospective-Singaporean-Foreigner-couples-better-plan-for-their-future

It's more straight forward than the existing MOM refer ICA, ICA refer MOM thingy.

As for the renewal of LTVP, it's still subjected to ICA on how long a period is being awarded. FOr the medical check-up, since yours is done 6 months ago, i think it will still be valid; coz normally its valid for yrs. To confirm just check the list of documents required in the In-Principal Approval letter from ICA. If it's not state there, means they don't require it.

Regards,
SK
Anonymous said…
Hi
I am very confused by the LTVP. I thought a person holding LTVP is not allowed to work except for those holding LTVP+.
Hi,

LTVP holder can find work in Singapore and prospective employer can apply a work pass for him/her. See following link:

http://www.mom.gov.sg/foreign-manpower/passes-visas/Pages/employment-of-long-term-visit-pass-holders.aspx
Anonymous said…
Hi
Thanks for your very interesting blog on LTVP. My Thai wife applied for a LTVP immediately after our wedding and it has been about 10 weeks and still being processed! I have checked with ICA and their reply is the application is being processed...
Anyone has the same situation?
Anonymous said…
hi
we were married for 7 years,every time need to apply LTVP or PLUs, but never got LTVP+.only got LTVP for one years everytime, but this time only 6 months. after 6 months what going to happen? my god save and care those soul,belss them with jusy basic human right to live a life.
Anonymous said…
hi
Can anyone tell me, 6 months LTVP can loook for job?
some of F&B store, only take 1 years and plus.

what happen to the 6 months ltvp?

thank you.
SK said…
Hi,
there are a few alternative solution(s) which you may want to try,
1. Start applying for PR.
2. Consider having a kid to stand a higher chance for LTVP+
3. Go see your MP at the "Meet the People (MPS)" session.

As for the looking for jobs with LTVP,
there'll be some changes to LTVP holders working in SG. See earlier threads of the comments. Changes will takes place in Jan 15.

Regards.
SK
Anonymous said…
Thanks for the reply SK.


Unknown said…
Hi, for long term visit pass appt, can china report b accept? Plz advice.. My appt is at 1045 tml!
SK said…
Hi Rebecca,
China report means?
Documents required for LTVP:
Duly completed Form 14* signed by the applicant and a local sponsor (the local sponsor must be either a Singapore Citizen (SC) or Singapore Permanent Resident (SPR)

Duly completed Form V39I* signed by the local sponsor (Malaysians are not required to complete this form)

Completed Form V234*
Applicant's travel document (e.g. passport) with at least 6 months validity. A copy of the travel document personal particulars page must be submitted to ICA
Applicant's Disembarkation/Embarkation (D/E) card with a valid Visit Pass granted on entry into Singapore
The local sponsor's Identity Card (a copy of the NRIC must be submitted to ICA)
Applicant's Marriage Certificate
If applicant is pregnant, a letter from a registered doctor stating applicant's Expected Date of Delivery (EDD) and a copy (original) of completed Form V107* is required
Children's Birth Certificates, if any
Local sponsor's and applicant's highest Educational Certificate
Local sponsor's Letter of Employment stating Date of Commencement, Designation and Salary per month (for self-employed: sponsor's valid Registration Certificate from the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (ACRA) and Company's Profit & Loss Statement for the last 12 months)
Local sponsor's Income Tax Notice of Assessment for the last 3 years and CPF Statement showing monthly CPF contribution for the last 12 months. Alternatively, the sponsor may choose to complete Appendix VP to give consent for ICA to obtain and verify financial information provided in respect of this application with the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (IRAS) and Central Provident Fund Board (CPF) directly instead.
One recent passport-sized colour photograph (to be pasted on the top right-hand corner of Form 14) which meets the following requirements:
Image must be taken within the last 3 months
Photograph should be in colour, must be taken against a white background with a matt or semi-matt finish
Image must show the full face and without headgear (headgear worn in accordance with religious or racial customs is acceptable but must not hide the facial features)
Sponsor's and applicant's Divorce Certificate, if any (original and photocopy)

Official translation of the documents is required if they are not in the English language.

Regards,
SK
Anonymous said…
hi

Do anybody know? use CPF to study in any Unversity in singapore for part time. for foreign spouse.

thanks
Anonymous said…
Hi there,

My wife have just got a one year LTVP, is it advisable for her to visit her parents in Thailand during this one year? heard that this will have impact on application of PR in the future , is that true, hope to hear any advise here..thanks!
It's okay to visit her parents, no worries, nothing to do with the PR application.
Anonymous said…
oh thanks alot, that clarifies the confusion :)
Anonymous said…
Hi Anonymous, How long did you wait for your wife's LTVP approval?
Anonymous said…
Hi there,

I applied on 27 Aug'14 and i received the in-principal approval via email on 25 Sept'14 and i follow up to make payment as well as book the date for submission of formalities
Anonymous said…
Hi

after seeing all the previous post im starting to get worried

just a quick explaination of my situation

I applied LTVP online for my wife 4 weeks ago

received a email from MOM saying that they will consider my application and ask me to go down in person to submit the documents
(this process is not consider the submission of formalities right?)

what are the chances of approval of LTVP
Anonymous said…
Hi,

Did they indicate it is a In-Principal approval in your email?
Anonymous said…
No. they didn't indicate it..
been 2 weeks already
-Nitroflame
Anonymous said…
Hi,

If this is the case, then just do accordingly , bring your wife along with the necessary documents , maybe they want to be sure before giving you the In- Principal approval
Anonymous said…
Hi,

my wife has received the LTVP in-principle approval from ICA, and the next thing is for us to go down for the appointment date which we have chosen at our convenience. Would my wife be able to collect her LTVP card on the day itself? Appreciate someone in replying me prompty. Thank you!
Unknown said…
Hi,

I am a sc,my fiancee is a malaysian. She doesnt hold any kind of passes. Recently we apply for the pre marriage ltvp assesment.and it was successful.she received Ltvp eligibility(LLE). My concern is,we didnt know that ltvp eligibility(LLE) is valid for 1 year,which means that we need to get married within that particular year.whereas we are planning to get married in 3 years time. Can i just reject this application? But will it affect our application in the future?(planning to re-apply again in 2 years time) i really hope u guys can help me. Im abit lost currently. Thank u very much:))
SK said…
Hi Anonymous,
Yes, your wife would be able to collect her LTVP card on the day itself. Just make sure all the required documents for the completion of formality and also the medical checkup results are available during your appointment.

Hi Anas Malek,
I'm not too familiar with the new scheme as well. You may wanna call ICA hotline to clarify this.

Regards,
SK

Anonymous said…
Bangali xiao??
LOL WTF...
Shwe Sue said…
Hi, Your blog is really encouraging for those who are in need of advice. I've really been meaning to post on your website or send you a personal email to say thanks.
But I thought it would help share my experience on this page as people in similar situations can come, read and get encouragements like I did.

My husband is not SC, but PR. We both are 27, from the same country, Myanmar. He's NTU graduate in EEE in 2011 and has been working since. Currently his salary is 3.3k+ before cpf.
We just applied LTVP for myself again and keeping our fingers crossed with agonizing axiety when checking on ICA status enquiry page "frequently".

This is not the first time we have applied and we got a handful of situation with this stuff over the past few years. Maybe my situation is particular.
Young and stupid as we were (not to mention too much in love) in 2009, we signed our ROM and applied for LTVP upon completion of my studies and student pass.
Back then, he was a student with no employment of any sort (we lived on parents' support sent from home. I know pathetic, but well.)
LTVP for 6 months was granted from Oct 2009 to End Mar 2009, extension of which is then granted again for another 6 months.
Things got screwed up for subsequent extension as he was still completing his degree with no employment.
Of course, I tried to live with him on social visit pass extended monthly but eventually decided to return home. We started keeping long-distance relationship since then.

Later he graduated and subsequently took up employment in IT field. I also secured a very good job with an MNC back home, so did not want to come to SG immediately. So we continued our LDR which involved painful phone bills and frequent travels..
We applied for LTVP again back in Apr 2013 when I was visiting SG, but it was rejected. His salary was 2.9k before cpf.
I did not bother much back then because I thought my life was better there, so we decided to continue living apart.
As always, ICA did not give reason but there were two facts that stood out to my analysis now.
1. He had not filed for taxes
2. I stayed only for a week; came SG applied and flew back.

After one more year and a half, we decided enough is enough as we yearned to start living and start a life together.
Being in IT field, career prospects for him is better in SG. So I quit my job, graduated from my Masters (abt the same time) and came here.
Before carefully apply for LTVP again, because of all the negative experience we had over the past years, we took due diligence and utmost care for this application.
I completed 30 days on my social visit pass before the application and extended for another 30 days, made sure his taxes have been filed and paid as well.
(Difference from our last application would be my Masters degree, his pay 3.3k with taxes fully paid)

Although I understand that marriage to an SC or SPR does not automatically entitle a person with long-term stay in SG, I cannot think of any other reason for rejection this time.
One can, however, still argue that 3.3k may be a little below the benchmark ok their expected salary range (although not written in Black & White). But hey, even though it's not plenty, it's still do-able.

When we applied for LTVP online on 23rd Dec 14, there was an option to extend current short-term visit pass which we opted for. My STV was expiring on 11th Jan 15 and we did not receive any response from ICA for short-term visit pass extension for more than 2 weeks.
So, we went to ICA on 8th Jan to have a physical endorsement in my passport so it was extended up to 8th Feb.
Today, 14th Jan 2015 (3 days after my initial expiry date), I received an email from ICA saying that short-term pass has been extended until 19th Feb 2014.

I wonder if it means my application stands a high chance for getting approved this time. Logically, there is no point extending one's short-term visit to a longer period (than physical endorsement).
Am I right to assume that way, or I'm just getting my hopes up?
SK said…
Hi Shwe Sue,
for extension of short term visit pass, the maximum stay duration for the visitors is not more than 89 days from the date of entry into Singapore. So probably you may want to call up ICA and clarify on the validity of your extension since there is a discrepancy now (valid till 8 Feb or 19 Feb).

Side note: The processing time for LTVP application is up to 6 weeks and usually the earliest date available for e-appointment for completion of formality is at least 2-3 weeks from date you login for booking, so for your case, with submission on 23rd Dec, probably you may need to plan for another trip here for the completion of formality (including submission of documents & medical checkup results) if awarded LTVP.
Since you have previously granted LTVP, so most of the required documents you should already have.

There are actually other means to increase your chances for your LTVP application:
1. Meeting the MP and ask for assistance.
2. Getting your husband to apply for SC.

Good Luck.

Regards,
SK
Shwe Sue said…
Hi SK,

Thank you for ur helpful response.

It turned out i was keeping my hopes up only to be crushed. The rejection letter came yesterday. On a positive note, it's not the first time so I've been mentally prepared.

My husband will seek help from MP. But do they normally help a PR, cos he's not a citizen?

Who to appeal? Applicant or sponsor?

Can we appeal via email? Cos the outcome email stated not to reply their email. Anyone knows the correct email for appeal?

Meanwhile, a trip back home.. i guess
SIGH........
SK said…
Hi Shwe Sue,
yes, MPS is usually meant for SC to seek MP for assistance, however still worthwhile trying. In my opinion, maybe your husband can consider applying for citizenship (SC) and that may in terms improve you chances of successful LTVP application.

As for the procedures and info pertaining to appealing of rejected LTVP application, the URL is as followed:
http://www.ifaq.gov.sg/ICA/apps/fcd_faqmain.aspx?qst=2fN7e274RAp%2BbUzLdEL/mCxs7iwcgv8gv2atNDOvsLBiPiusth0LtAIr9geTXzb5NM5NFpeJdkB8/qPko6kNZqU6HeD6VyIev%2BUWntEzgLkfrT/JfB2k91xBXxA3ykUvHi1xOpgzqJGGqT6QSfqW66N%2BEwhZApvO/lod3J62NBTztsYh6wEf%2BwQdAdub1Tx380SGkyaWTBG%2BkG4aLnR%2BjXeooFMVToyC9GVmn7IWcHhz8Hfm/lVjqg%3D%3D#FAQ_30145

There isn't any specific guidelines on what are the documents required.

Submission of appeal can be done via post, email or through ICA Information Counter. However, if you wish to obtain a queue ticket to submit by hand at ICA counters, you will then be required to fill up an application Form 14 and attach your appeal letter together.

the email address should be ICA_visit_pass@ica.gov.sg

Hope the information helps.

Regards,
SK
R Win said…
Hi there, great informative site, great job.

Now to the Immigration saga:

Married to a Thai Professional 2 weeks back, followed exactly what ICA has adviced us to do, to apply for Pre-Marriage Assement Online a month before wedding only to be rejected under 10 days, impressed with service, worried about future.

I am surprised that having resided in 10 developed and developing countries in 14 years, Singapore Immigration laws has proven to be a little challenging
in our own home ground.

Nonetheless, SC that's me (Male) and Thai (Mrs)was told to apply directly to LTVP when we are in Singapore as we left for our Honeymoon as soon as we got married.

The problem is this, she holds a very high position in Thailand for a large MNC and she is making her hand overs prior to joining me in Singapore in a month's time.

ICA has told us to both to be present in Singapore just to fill-in the online application. This I do not understand.

Now she has to fly into Singapore to fill-in the LTVP Online form and get back to Thailand to continue her hand over
SK said…
Hi R Win,

Understand your frustration and uncertainty despite "following" the guidelines by the different agencies. I guess you probably misinterpreted the "new scheme" of Pre-Marriage Long Term Visit Pass Assessment (PMLA).

Yes, this was intended for prospective Singaporean-foreigner couples to jointly submit an application for a Letter of LTVP Eligibility (LLE) before marriage. However, the online Assessment was intended to be done as early as one year prior to marriage (Letter of LTVP Eligibility (LLE) that is valid for one year).

The reason your application for your spouse was rejected was probably due to inadequate time for ICA to process as the processing time for the Pre-Marriage LTVP Assessment is up to 4 weeks and you only submitted your application 1 month before marriage.

For more Info.

New measures to help prospective Singaporean-Foreigner couples better plan for their future

http://app.msf.gov.sg/Press-Room/New-measures-to-help-prospective-Singaporean-Foreigner-couples-better-plan-for-their-future

Advisory Note for Pre-marriage Long-Term Visit Pass (LTVP) Assessment

http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/docs/Visitor%20Services/Advisory%20note%20for%20PMLA-%2015%20Dec.pdf



Don’t recall that applicant needs to be present in Singapore for submission of online application for LTVP. Anyway, just to be “safe” probably you should follow the advise from the ICA’s officer recommendation.

However, you may also want to consider filing your application for LTVP after she is done with her handing over of duties and return to SG.

- Typical processing time for LTVP application is 4-6 weeks

- upon In-principle Approval (IPA) it will take approximately one more month to the appointment date for completion of formality

Hence if you file the LTVP when she returns, a social visit pass plus extension (stay for not more than <89 days from the date of entry into Singapore) will be sufficient to settle her LTVP (that is if everything went smoothly).

Hope this helps clarify some of your doubts.

Regards,
SK
SK said…
Hi R Win,

Understand your frustration and uncertainty despite "following" the guidelines by the different agencies. I guess you probably misinterpreted the "new scheme" of Pre-Marriage Long Term Visit Pass Assessment (PMLA).

Yes, this was intended for prospective Singaporean-foreigner couples to jointly submit an application for a Letter of LTVP Eligibility (LLE) before marriage. However, the online Assessment was intended to be done as early as one year prior to marriage (Letter of LTVP Eligibility (LLE) that is valid for one year).

The reason your application for your spouse was rejected was probably due to inadequate time for ICA to process as the processing time for the Pre-Marriage LTVP Assessment is up to 4 weeks and you only submitted your application 1 month before marriage.

For more Info.

New measures to help prospective Singaporean-Foreigner couples better plan for their future

http://app.msf.gov.sg/Press-Room/New-measures-to-help-prospective-Singaporean-Foreigner-couples-better-plan-for-their-future

Advisory Note for Pre-marriage Long-Term Visit Pass (LTVP) Assessment

http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/docs/Visitor%20Services/Advisory%20note%20for%20PMLA-%2015%20Dec.pdf



Don’t recall that applicant needs to be present in Singapore for submission of online application for LTVP. Anyway, just to be “safe” probably you should follow the advise from the ICA’s officer recommendation.

However, you may also want to consider filing your application for LTVP after she is done with her handing over of duties and return to SG.

Typical processing time for LTVP application is 4-6 weeks

upon In-principle Approval (IPA) it will take approximately one more month to the appointment date for completion of formality

Hence if you file the LTVP when she returns, a social visit pass plus extension (stay for not more than 89 days from the date of entry into Singapore) will be sufficient to settle her LTVP (that is if everything went smoothly).

Hope I managed to clear some of your doubts.

Regards,
SK
Unknown said…
Hi Sim congrats. Can I check why can't you bring your wife to jb before the LTVP is approved? I'm getting married soon and thinking of bringing my wife for a honeymoon before applying for LTVP. will I have a problem with that?
Unknown said…
Hi anas, hope things worked out for you. I am applying for this pre marriage LTVP assessment soon. Can I check if you know if my future wife needs to be in Singapore when I apply for this assessment? Thank you so much.
Anonymous said…
Hi
I am spouse of a SPR. Now my ltvp is approved and got e appointment date.but now i noticed that there is some miatakes in the form 14 regarding my wife (sponser) particulars..becoz i wrongly entered my educational qualification and current job in her particulars..can we change it in anyways?plz help
Hi,

You can call ICA to see what they can do for you now, better highlight to them about the mistake earlier.
Unknown said…
Hi I am a Singaporean with a Vietnamese wife who is granted a LTVP+.
I realized that because she's not a PR, we cannot even apply for a LTVP for her mom my mother in law.
This is sad news as we really need her mother to take care of our Singaporean son. And it is absolutely ridiculous that 2 PR spouses can apply for LTVP for their parents!? So where is my privilege as a Singaporean???
I feel ICA should explain this to my Singaporean son.

Do you know of anyway we can impress on the governments to change this?

It is also ridiculous that foreign spouses of Singaporeans are expected to pay high medical bills on Singaporeans paycheck???

I feel that we should all meet and go to ICA and demand an explanation!!
Shwe Sue said…
Dear SK, the blog owner, and fellow readers

I came back to update you all again that I filed an appeal for the rejected outcome. After six weeks of processing time, it has been approved. I'm now waiting to complete the formalities.

We indicated the increase in my husband's (sponsor/ SPR) salary from 3.3k to 4.2k. The rest remained unchanged.

It is indeed a great relief for both of us after suffering a great deal of long-distance relationship.

I wish you all good luck too!
Hi Wilson,

Yep, as LTVP+ holder she cannot sponsor her mom, but I think I read a case where a Singaporean spouse was allowed to sponsor both his foreign wife and mother-in-law for LTVP, but it was considered on case-by-case basis, you can check with ICA on this.

Anyway try to apply PR for her, maybe she can get it now.

Best of luck!
Hi Sue,

Thanks for coming back to share your experience, I'm sure it will bring some relief for those waiting.
Sim said…
Hi there, I posted previously asking for advices (thank you host for the write up and answers). Now am back for some updates.
My wife is holding a 1 year LTVP. After few months, she got pregnant. We went for checkups and got a doctor memo stating her EDD (estimate delivery date). I went online and apply for the LTVP+ (she still have 6 months validity on her LTVP), same procedure as applying for LTVP, with additional note - wife is pregnant.
Waited for 5 weeks and got the in-principle approval, pay the require fees and booked for appointment (complete of formalities). All documents require is the same as what I first apply LTVP for my wife, except I got an extra doctor memo. On the day of appointment, submitted all documents and the officer asked for the doctor memo, then waited. Officer saying need to check on my income status. Waited for like 1 1/2 hrs and she got her LTVP+ for 3 years.
Time frame - from application to appointment date, total took us close to 2 months.

Gonna apply for her PR soon. Hope for the best.

Cheerios.
Hi Sim,

Thanks for coming back to share your experience, I'm sure it will help a lot of people.

And best of luck for the PR, I think very likely can get it.
SingViet said…
Goodday to everyone out there, urgent matter, pls help... my foreigner wife(already pregnant) will be coming on 15th,as i'm going to apply LTVP these few days, pls advice whether to see local doctor to get EXPECTED DATE of DELIVERY first, or go online to apply LTVP first... we already ROM last year, so not nessessary to apply PRE-MARRIAGE...(thank God). Bcos i understand there's one column requires to state YES or NO of pregnacy... pls help, thanks alot in advance!!
Hi SingViet,

You decide which gynae you plan to see, then you call them for appointment see have to wait how long, better choose one near your home.

If appointment have to wait too long, you can bring her to the A&E, say she not feeling well or something, the gynae on duty will see her, you can then ask for the letter of EDD, but you have to pay the A&E fee upfront, should be $108.
Sim said…
Hi Singviet,
From what I go through, just apply for the LTVP online first, state "yes" on pregnancy.
For Gynae, u can go ahead, make appointment and see one (that is if u have recommendation from friends/relatives). As u wont be needing the EDD memo that fast after u apply for LTVP. Suggest u take the doctor memo when u receive the online in-principle approval. Then fix a date for appointment to ICA. Most important, the official form stated that the EDD memo must be within 1 month when u go for appointment (complete of formalities).

@Host, Thank you. I realize that ur wife delivery is at NUH, same as me. My wifey EDD is June 3rd ;)

Cheerios
SingViet said…
Gd morn to Host n Sim,
thanks alot for the advices, i already applied LTVP last night, the only thing i can do now is... waiting for the "good luck" to come!! Will continue to updating here.
Hi Sim,

Wow, almost the same as my wife, but she is checking in on 05 May, probably going to deliver around 19 May or so.

Hi SingViet,

Best of luck!
Anonymous said…
Hi, my husband is a foreigner. Applied for ltvp and was rejected in Apr. Wonder if his nationality matter as well as low tax assessment in 2012, which can be explain as going overseas for further studies, result in a rejection of ltvp? Please help..
Hi,

You can try to write an appeal letter to ICA. You can also look for your MP to write the letter as it might help.
Gail said…
Hi, we did both. So waiting for results now.

Just wondering if the assessment to give ltvp, is it based on sponsor or the ability of the foreign spouse?

Do u know while waiting for the appeal, will the short term visit pass be extended? And does it matter if we leave sg?
Hi Gail,

Usually it is based on the sponsor unless the sponsor is a housewife so they will assess the foreign spouse job and income instead.

While waiting for appeal, you have to do the extension by yourself, you can do it online or at ICA.

You are not required to stay in SG during your appeal, but be sure to check your post/email for any update.
Anonymous said…
Hi,
My wife had received IPA and had already booked an appointment for formality but can my wife goes back to Thailand while waiting for the completion of formalities? The DE card number would be different then. Does it affects the formality completion?
Hi,

It should be fine, just make sure she turn up for the appointment ;)
SingViet said…
Hi Sim n host,
I've already seen a private gynae, cost me $230 in total for US/medication/consultation... wow!! Juz asking, my wife is 12weeks now, do i need to go for Down Syndrome Test, as the gynae planned for our nxt appointment? (normal test is $300, Harmony test is $1300) Yr previous experiences are very useful to a first time father-to-be like me!!
Hi SingViet,

Wah, private is so expensive!

The Harmony test costed me $869.35 at NUH. It really depends on you and your wife, some religious people they don't bother, heaven give them what they take what. But if you want high accuracy, the Harmony test is the best, 99%, the $300 I think it's some sort of combined test, it's less accurate than Harmony.

For my wife, I choose Harmony because baby have heart defect so very high risk of down syndrome, for you if baby is okay, then can consider the lower price option, but then again, if you really want to have peace of mind, Harmony still the way to go.

Best wishes to you and family!
SingViet said…
Thks alot for the speedy reply. As my wife still waiting for LTVP approval, do u think is a good idea to go KK hospital for follow up checkings... whether can i use medisave? If no, will the price be as high as outside private gynae? Next Monday will apply online for extended stay as her social pass is due on 15th May... hope everything goes smoothly!!
klay said…
My wife from thai needs to change her family name to my family name after rom. So is it better to apply for ltvp first then she go back n change or wait till everything is settled then she change. We want to faster stay tog n get things done swee swee. Can advise?
Hi SingViet,

You just need the letter of date of delivery from any registered gynae, that means you can switch over to KK any time, no need to stay at private gynae.

And you cannot use medisave for pre-delivery costs, have to pay by cash. Only after delivery you can claim $450 from medisave for pre-delivery costs on top of the usual delivery claims.

If she don't have PR, she will be charged private rates which mean no subsidy, but overall I think government hospital private rates still slightly lower than private gynae so I suggest switching over.

Best of luck!
Hi Klay,

My wife didn't change so I'm not really sure which is better, but personally I won't bother, I would settle down first because change name can do anytime.
Anonymous said…
Hi All,
My wife's LTVP will expire this September.
When should I start the renewal process?

Thanks in advance.

CC
SK said…
Hi,
If you're doing submission online, a good time buffer of 4-6 weeks for processing upon submission of application and another 4 weeks for completion of formality will be good.
In total an approximate 2.5mths prior to expiry of her LTVP will be good.

Regards,
SK
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